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Responses to How the case against the MMR vaccine was fixed -- Deer 342 -- bmj.com

 

I characterized Wakefield's behavior as grim and reprehensible but pled with whomever might be reading the Facebook exchange "Please, let's not let this set back the work on discovering the true consequences of holding industrial medicine's mechanical vaccination regimens as an article of faith." The following responses were among those that followed.

 

Susan Sa

here's a link to a very good comic book version of the whole lousy story that a friend passed on when i posted the story of this being one of the biggest retractions of the year: http://tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html#cutid1
i don't... know what your feelings are about vaccination in general (sounds like you have doubts/questions), but Wakefield is a scumbag who did enormous damage with this one "study".

 

Brandon WilliamsCraig Summary: Wakefield bad. Industrial vaccination (standardized, mechanical, and driven by profit) bad for mammals. Specific vaccination by individual physicians, spread out over time, with no preservative toxins - good for mammals. Holding industrial medicine's mechanical vaccination regimens as an article of faith = scientism and abuse of defenseless people and animals. The true consequences = premature death and needless damage.

 

Richard Page

When working as Senior Public Health Advisor for the Cleveland Health Department in the 1970's, I was informed of politicized immunizations for New jersey A (Swine Flu) in order to get Gerald Ford elected president. 7 cases were claimed, l...ated reduced to one. 300 healthy GS7 Federal employess were innoculated with the so-called vaccine. 18% had 'serious sequalae', yet without further testing, the dosage was halved and foisted on the entire senior polulation of the U.S.
Recent manufacture of Avian Flu fear and massive vaccine production is suspect. MANDATORY innoculation of teenage girls for clamydia to prevent later cancer based on spurious evidence is OUTRAGEOUS. Big Phara controls all research and we are at effect.

Susan Sa
i would say that blind acceptance of "standard of care" in today's medical system for many diseases, the biggest being heart disease and cancer, is not a good idea... but the vast majority of patients are too ignorant and/or intimidated to ...question and make well-advised decisions. i think that there is a real need for patient care advocates who are in the know that can help people deal... but i don't see how that could possibly become a funded reality. so if you do not have family or friends who can help you out with that, you are unfortunately often a victim/guinea pig/statistic.

i am not familiar enough with the standard vaccination regimen to offer any comment on it, but are inoculations not coming from an individual dr., your pediatrician? industrial vaccination gives me this image of babies on a conveyor belt, with an assembly line of robotics doing the injections...

all vaccines, and the diseases they are made to protect against, are not the same, though. i myself never take the flu shot. my immune system is healthy, my dad had a bad reaction to one once, and it's sort of a crap shoot every year to guess what's going to be the predominant strain (an educated guess of a a crap shoot, but still...)

but things like measles, pertussis, and polio are not things that you want to become common in the population again. i don't know that the chicken pox one is one that is warranted. Richard, are you talking about the HPV vaccine? that's one that i don't think is a bad idea... something like 90% of sexually active adults have encountered/harbor some kind of HPV. many of the males don't know it... there are over 100 different kinds of HPV, and most do not cause cancer... but around a dozen have been associated, and a couple or few are proven to be very good at transformation in leading to cervical cancer. i happen to be reading The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks right now (a fantastic book, BTW), which is about the woman who they harvested cells from that became the first immortal cell line to be grown in culture. those things grow like weeds; they are f'ing unstoppable! the HeLa line is from her cervical cancer tumor, and at least one of the transforming agents was one of the most harmful HPV strains.

i don't think it should be mandatory, but if i had a daughter, i would probably want her to get it. almost every female i know has had some experience with that crap, even if they have had very few sexual partners, and even if it's not the kind that can lead to cancer, it still ain't fun.

 

 

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